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Friday, July 29, 2011

Proof that “Yahweh” is a Greek Pronunciation




Evidence for Yahweh by Several Early Greek Writers?

Pictured above is an artist’s depiction of Saint Clement & Saint Peter of Alexandria Egypt, so-called early “Church Fathers.”

What’s wrong with the above statement? Several early Greek writers of the Christian Church testify that the name was pronounced Yahweh.”---The Modern Judaica Encyclopedia, Vol. 7 p. 679: YaHuWaH is a Hebrew name!

On the surface, the above quote sounds pious doesnt it? Very few scholars detected anything. Who were these Greek writers?

“The pronunciation, Yahweh, is indicated by the transliteration of the name into Greek in early Christian literature. . ‘by Clement of Alexandria, and by Theodoret. . . . Strictly speaking, Yahweh is the only name of god.” The New Bible Dictionary p. 478 by J.D. Douglas. Not mentioned in the quote, but also used for evidence for Yahweh, is Epiphanius (who wrote Iabe) and Origen who wrote (Iae).

The Catholic Church quoted fairly: “... Judging from Greek transcriptions, the Set-Apart Name.. YHWH ought to be pronounced Yahweh.” 8

Gesenius stated in his Hebrew-Chaldee Lexicon “this same form appears on the gems of the Egyptian Gnostics as the name of God ...[but these gems are not of the most remote antiquity; they are the work of heretics of the 1 second and third centuries].” (brackets not supplied) under #3068 Jehovah

Clement of Alexandria was a teacher of the Gnostic’s; Origen was one of his students. The Masons and Catholics alike claim Clement, Origen, Theodoret and Epiphanius as the forefathers of their faith.

Simon Magus (Acts 8:9-24) was the father of Gnostic heresies, also pseudo-messiah, he was a teacher who went to Rome and taught angelology and astrology.

The school in Alexandria was mixing paganism in the true apostolic faith and promoting “sun-god worship.” It was the school of Gnosticism that prepared the way for the Papacy to be established. Constantine was also a Gnostic Christian. Some of their heretical beliefs:

Predestination from astrology! The body could never be saved! That prophets were not dependable for inspiration! They believed in magic! Sprinkling instead of baptism by immersion! Sunday worship! Hatred for the Torah!

The Jesuits restored Gnosticism in the Council of Trent:

“The Society of Jesus proposed to subordinate the Holy Scriptures and in their place substitute the interpretations of the Bible by the ecclesiastical writers of the first centuries whom they call the ‘fathers.’ All the errors and vagaries of the allegorizers who confused and darkened the first three centuries were selected. The first great papal council which assembled after the Reformation, the Council of Trent (A.D. 1545-1563), was dominated by the Jesuits. This assembly laid down the law, and no papal authority has dared since to dispute it.”---Truth Triumphant p. 317

Why use Greek writers for evidence anyway? Greeks were notorious for altering Hebrew names.

Compare Hebrew and Greek Names
Notice the “ah” or “a” ending in Hebrew vs. “e” in Greek!

Hebrew Base
KJV Text
Greek Base
Manuscript
Abishua
1st Chronicles 8:2
Abisue
Douay-Rheims
Adna
Ezra 10:30
Edne
Greek Septuagint
Ahlra
Numbers 1:15
Achirc
Greek Septuagint
Ahoah
1st Chronicles 8:4
Ahoe
Douay-Rheims
Ayah/Ajah
Genesis 36:24
Aie
Greek Septuagint
Arab
1st Chronicles 7:39
Aree
Douay-Rheims
Arbah
Genesis 35:27
Arbee
Douay-Rheims
Bathsheba
2nd Samuel 11:3
Bethsabee
Douay-Rheims
Betah
2nd Samuel 8:8
Bete
Douay-Rheims
Careah
2nd Kings 25:23
Caree
Douay-Rheims
Chawah/
Chavah
Genesis 3:20
Eve

Elisha
1st Kings 19:16
Elisaie
Greek Septuagint
Elishua
2nd Samuel 5:16
Elisuc
Greek Septuagint
Gaba
Joshua 18:24
Gabee
Douay-Rheims
Gilboa
1st Samuel 28:4
Gelboe
Douay-Rheims
Gomorrah
Genesis 19:24
Gomorrhe
2nd Esdra 2:8
Halah
2nd Kings 17:6
Alae
Greek Septuagint
Hammedatha
Esther 3:1
Amadathes
Greek Septuagint
Hashubah
1st Chronicles 3:20
Asube
Greek Septuagint
*Ishua
Genesis 46:17
*Ieooova
Possibly the LXX
Janohah
Joshua 16:6
Janoc
Douay-Rheims
Jeremiah
2nd Chronicles
36:21
Ieremie
2nd Maccabees 2:5
Jerah
1st Chronicles 1:20
Jare
Douay-Rheims
Jehodiada
2nd Samuel 8:18
Jodae
Greek Septuagint
Jehosheba
2nd Kings 11:2
Joscbcc
Greek Septuagint
Jehoshua
1st Chronicles 7:27
Inoove
Greek Septuagint
Jeshua
Ezra 2:6
Inoove
Greek Septuagint
Jephthah
Judges 11:1
Jephte
Douay-Rheims
Jimnah
Genesis 46:17
Jamne
Douay-Rheims
Joppa
Ezra 3:7
Joppe
Douay-Rheims
Joshah
1st Chronicles 4:34
Jose
Luke 3:29
Joshua
Exodus 17:9
Josue
Douay-Rheims
Judah
Genesis 29:35
Jude
NT- Book
Kareah
Jeremiah 40:8
Caree
Douay-Rheims
Korah
Numbers 16:1
Core
Jude 11
Malchishua
1st Chronicles 8:33
Melchisue
Douay-Rheims
Massa
Genesis 25:14
Masse
Greek Septuagint
Mizzah
Genesis 36:13
Moze
Greek Septuagint
Neziah
Ezra 2:54
Nasthie
Greek Septuagint
Nobiah
Numbers 32:42
Nobe
Douay-Rheims
Noah
Genesis 6:29
Noe
Matthew 24:38; Luke 3:36; 17:26
Nogah
1st Chronicles 3:7
Nagge
Luke 3:25
 Nophah
Numbers 21:30
Nophe
Douay-Rheims
Hosea
Numbers 13:16
Osee
Romans 9:25
Paruah
1st Kings 4:17
Pharue
Douay-Rheims
Paseah
1st Chronicles 4:12
Phesse
Douay-Rheims
Pekah
2nd Kings 15:25
Phakee
Greek Septuagint
Potipherah
Genesis 41:45
Patiphare
Douay-Rheims
Reba
Numbers 31:8
Rebe
Douay-Rheims
Rephah
1st Chronicles 7:25
Raphe
Greek Septuagint
Roma
(Greek #4516)
Rome
Acts 18:2
Salah
Genesis 10:24
Sale
Douay-Rheims
Shammah
Genesis 36:13
Some
Greek Septuagint
Sheba
2nd Samuel 20:1
Sabee
Greek Septuagint
Shiloah
Isaiah 8:6
Siloe
Douay-Rheims
Shimeah
2nd Samuel 21:21
Samae
Douay-Rheims
Shua
1st Chronicles 2:3
Sue
Douay-Rheims
Tarah
Numbers 33:27
Thare
Douay-Rheims
Tebah
Genesis 22:24
Tabee
Douay-Rheims
Tekoa
1st Chronicles 2:24
Thecoe
Greek Septuagint
Telah
1st Chronicles 7:25
Thale
Douay-Rheims
Terah
Genesis 11:24
Thare
Douay-Rheims
Tobiah
Ezra 2:60
Tobie
1st Maccabees 5:13
Zanoah
Joshua 15:34
Zanoe
Douay-Rheims
Zebah
Judges 8:5
Zebee
Douay-Rheims
Zechariah
OT Book
Zacharie
2nd Esdras 1:40
Zerah
2nd Chronicles14:9
Tare
Greek Septuagint
Yehovah/
YaHuWaH

Iabe/Iaoue/Yahweh
Greek Septuagint

Though these Greek Gnostic Scholars loved to walk around in white pretentious robes, our Creator labeled men such as these as a kingdom with spots “like a leopard” (Daniel 7:6). Can the leopard change his spots? (Jeremiah 13:23). How then can they do good that are accustomed to doing evil, including changing names? Our Creator knew that these Gnostic Greek Scholars would seek to remove the children of Israel far from their border! 

Yahuwshuwa the Messiah is coming back for a glorious congregation “not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish” (Ephesians 5:27).

The Roman Catholic Douay version was largely based on the Greek Septuagint and thus many names ended with an “e.”

In the last days our Creator said: “I will turn to the people a pure language.” For what purpose? “That they may call upon the name of YAHUWAH, to serve Him with one consent” (Zephaniah 3:9). What language should we consult to derive the true pronunciation of the set-apart name? Certainly not the Greek! However Scripture tells us which language it is.

Thus saith YAHUWAH of hosts, “In those days it shall come to pass, that ten men shall take hold out of all the languages of the nations, even shall take hold of the skirt of him that is a Yahuwdiy, saying, ‘We will go with you: for we have heard that Elohiym is with you.’” (Zechariah 8:23). It seems strange that scholars only mention the evidence of the early Greek writers. Why do they not give all the other evidences?

The evidence from Origen is “Iae,” but this was also the name of a pagan god. In the Dictionary of World Mythology by Cotterell under Kuat, who is “The sun god in Kamaiuran mythology.” We find that “Iae” was the moon god, and brother to Kuat. Strange that Origen came up with this, when Clement his teacher used Iaoue.

“Clement, most famous of the Alexandrian college faculty and teacher of Origen, boasted that he would not teach Christianity unless it were mixed with pagan philosophy.”----Truth Triumphant p. 47


The Greek language does not even have a “Y” sound, or an “H” sound in the middle of a word, nor a “W,” nor an “sh” sound. Neither did the Latin have a “W” sound, nor an “sh” sound. Therefore many early believers contended that the Messiah’s name could only be pronounced from the Hebrew correctly.

9 comments:

  1. Interesting...
    i seek ONLY the truth; i post this NOT to argue/refute, but merely to share information, as i cannot disprove these linguistics evidence(s):
    i am Robert Ray Greene on FaceBook, btw.
    http://www.yahuwshua.org/en/name.htm
    http://tmcdaniel.palmerseminary.edu/GeseniusGrammar.pdf

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  2. I have here in my hair salon a book that I found on mythology. I thought to look into it so that when I spot a myth or error I'd know what it would look like and where it would originate from.Also, since we have an open mic night every first weekend of the month, I keep a bookshelf of various books here to get people to participate in the talent....

    Reading some from this Greek mythology book here "Mythology by Edith Hamilton, It is interesting to note that "many a story teller would actually believe what they wrote.".. at least the "good actors" would..... be so convincing enough....apparently, most of the Greeks who were writers were in love with the things that they wrote and became convincingly great storytellers, ( kind of like the makers of star wars and such.... movies for entertainment.).I've heard it once wrongly stated that "if you believe or say something long enough.... then it becomes true!" Boy that was a gnostic wolf in sheep's clothing in the pulpit, that I ever knew !!

    It also says that the Greeks would make "their gods more human with bodies like ours " (but all muscular as in their youth and beautiful goddesses) (reminds me of the Olympics!!!!!) so that they could be worshipped and more relatable instead of the Eygptian gods and goddesses with animal heads and stiff bodies...

    I see that in our worship now of "movie stars, athletes, business owners and political people" people constantly in the public eye... and how the people worship gods and goddesses when "they"(the worshipped elevated ones) go to their fine banquets and awards ceremonies... Ie. Oscar awards....Olympic medal ceremonies,etc..

    If we worship things that we like to see all the time... such as in "people magazine"s etc.... what we pay for....is an "offering" to those that "peddle images" ( I know.....that's calling a kettle black!) to look into what "the gods must be doing".... we love to laugh at them and see their foibles and say "ha ha.... we are not worse than they are..." and comparing ourselves to them we make ourselves on the throne trumping ourselves over those whom we worship... busted we all are!! It's all marketing.... I know... and funny how YHWH uses the very ones to crumble the altars that we in fact erect ourselves!!! If I were a Greek Mythologist instead of a owner/cosmetologist, I could say.. "Zeus must be laughing right now using me"!

    Thank you Mariyah for showing here about the Greek history and picking out the forensic lies that many a student of the cloth have been taught in the "cemetary schools" of "white washed tombs of dead men's bones". If only those men would have such a keen eye as you MariYah Merola then they would not be leading many to a ditch,a darkened bottomless pit where there is no illumination/light for any to see clearly.

    Keep throwing the line into the pit MariYah, and fish out those human fish out of the sea of forgetfulness. Your name is written in the "book of Remembrance." Keep up throwing the rain " Yerushalom." Deut 32:2 "Let my revelation fall as the rain."

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  3. What you don't have on there is JOVE, which I learned is Greek for the god Jupiter, pronounced Yahveh, or Yohveh. hmmmm....once again? Yet people still poopoo this when I tell them, why?

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  4. **I have to correct myself, it is Roman (latin), not Greek...Zeus is Greek, but still same deity. Just like the acronym Y.E.S.H.U. turned into iesu, iesou, iesus, Jesus.

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  5. @Unknown, I agree! I have been meaning to add more to this blog for some time now, and I do plan to add that info to the blog :-)

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  6. Let's go to Exodus 20.

    1. I am Yahuwah your Elohim (Mighty One / God), who brought you out of the land of Mitsrayim (Egypt), out of the house of slavery. You have no other mighty ones against My face.

    2. You do not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of that which is in the shamayim (heavens) above, or which is in the earth beneath, or which is in the waters under the earth, you do not bow down to them nor serve them, For I, Yahuwah your Elohim,am a jealous El, visiting the wickedness of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing kindness to thousands, to those who love Me and guard My Commands.

    3. You do not bring the Name of Yahuwah your Elohim to naught, for Yahuwah does not leave the one unpunished who brings His name to naught.

    4. Remember the Shabbath say, to qadosh it (set it apart). Six days you labour, and shall do all your work, but the seventh day is a Shabbath of Yahuwah your Elohim. You do not do any work - you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six days Yahuwah made the shamayim (heavens) and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. ThereforeYahuwah barak (blesses) the Shabbath day and qadosh it (sets it apart).

    5. Respect your father and your mother, so that your days are prolonged upon the land which Yahuwah your Elohim is giving you.

    6. You do not murder.
    7. You do not commit adultery.
    8. You do not steal.
    9. You do not bear false witness against your neighbour.
    10. You do not covet your neighbour's house, you do not covet your neighbour's wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, or whatever belongs to your neighbour.


    You may be suprised at reading these, as they may not sound the same as what you may have been taught. These are the commandments as written by Yahuwah's own hand.

    THESE ARE TO BE DILIGENTLY TAUGHT TO YOUR CHILDREN, AND POSTED ON THE DOORPOSTS OF YOUR HOME. (Deuteronomy 6).

    Scriptures states:

    Revelation 22:14
    'Blessed are those doing His Commands, so that the authority shall be theirs unto the tree of life and to enter through the gates into the city.'

    Psalm 119:165
    'Great shalom (peace) have they which love the TORAH: and nothing shall offend them.'

    John 14 v 15
    'If you love Me, you shall guard (keep) My commands.'

    Let's take a close look at each Commandment (click here)

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  7. the same ones are at: http://followersofyah.com/TenCommandments.html

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  8. Let's go to Exodus 20.

    1. I am Yahuwah your Elohim (Mighty One / God), who brought you out of the land of Mitsrayim (Egypt), out of the house of slavery. You have no other mighty ones against My face.

    2. You do not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of that which is in the shamayim (heavens) above, or which is in the earth beneath, or which is in the waters under the earth, you do not bow down to them nor serve them, For I, Yahuwah your Elohim,am a jealous El, visiting the wickedness of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing kindness to thousands, to those who love Me and guard My Commands.

    3. You do not bring the Name of Yahuwah your Elohim to naught, for Yahuwah does not leave the one unpunished who brings His name to naught.

    4. Remember the Shabbath say, to qadosh it (set it apart). Six days you labour, and shall do all your work, but the seventh day is a Shabbath of Yahuwah your Elohim. You do not do any work - you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six days Yahuwah made the shamayim (heavens) and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. ThereforeYahuwah barak (blesses) the Shabbath day and qadosh it (sets it apart).

    5. Respect your father and your mother, so that your days are prolonged upon the land which Yahuwah your Elohim is giving you.

    6. You do not murder.
    7. You do not commit adultery.
    8. You do not steal.
    9. You do not bear false witness against your neighbour.
    10. You do not covet your neighbour's house, you do not covet your neighbour's wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, or whatever belongs to your neighbour.


    You may be suprised at reading these, as they may not sound the same as what you may have been taught. These are the commandments as written by Yahuwah's own hand.

    THESE ARE TO BE DILIGENTLY TAUGHT TO YOUR CHILDREN, AND POSTED ON THE DOORPOSTS OF YOUR HOME. (Deuteronomy 6).

    Scriptures states:

    Revelation 22:14
    'Blessed are those doing His Commands, so that the authority shall be theirs unto the tree of life and to enter through the gates into the city.'

    Psalm 119:165
    'Great shalom (peace) have they which love the TORAH: and nothing shall offend them.'

    John 14 v 15
    'If you love Me, you shall guard (keep) My commands.'

    Let's take a close look at each Commandment (click here)

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